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what's your assessment so far as far as

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aquarius being an analog to space flight

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is it is it giving you a fairly

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realistic feel or your crewmates who

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haven't been to space before actually we

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have talked about this among us and

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in my personal opinion

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this is the most accurate analog i've

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ever been into i've i've done

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other analogs

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one underground for example which is

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more about exploration

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but this one just because of the

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conditions and because of the the

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habitat itself it is incredibly accurate

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it really feels like you're you are on a

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different planet

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give me the the thumbnail version of

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what nemo 20 is about what are you guys

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there to do

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wow nemo 20 is about a lot of different

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things the main the main thing is

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um evaluation of procedure techniques

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and tools

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for future exploration on extra

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planetary objects

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we had

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we have been testing and evaluating

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um flight specific tools designed to

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explore to retrieve samples and to do

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science on small asteroids or bigger

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moons or even even mars

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and the reason why we can only do it

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here or or the reason why

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nemo is such a unique place to do it is

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because thanks to the to the water and

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to the buoyancy we can simulate

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different levels of gravity from

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microgravity so completely floating to

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partial gravity like we would experiment

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on the moon or on mars

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has your own experience and specifically

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your space walking experience

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has that really helped you in in that

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i think it does in in many different

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ways there there are

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there are two two ways to see this uh

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you can have an experienced space walker

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uh come in and use that experience to

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evaluate a tool to evaluate a technique

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to evaluate a procedure

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on the other hand you can have people

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that have been trained

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but i never experienced it and they can

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give their

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their best evaluation and it will be

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just as important because we may have

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people that have never done an mba on

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mars and they will have to use the same

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tools the same technique and procedures

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and so

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we can learn a lot from combining those

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experiences together

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another thing that you're doing there

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you're working with some

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european space agency sponsored hardware

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that is

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designed to let an astronaut keep his

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eye on the job instead of looking away

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to the instructions how's that going

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so that part of the experiment is

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completed and we did it in the very

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first part of our mission

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that

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the hardware developed by the european

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space agency is called the mobipb and it

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will be used in the upcoming mission

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iris with my classmate and colleague

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andres morgensen

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when he when he goes up on the space

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station this september he will be using

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this special device that he can wear on

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his wrist and from there through his

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voice he can command a procedure to just

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scroll down which is something that can

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be very useful if you are using your

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feet to stabilize yourself and you need

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both hands to um to perform the task so

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thanks to this device

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hopefully we will have an improvement on

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that and the experiment went really well

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i think that andy is going to have a

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very good tool available for him in his

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mission

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you've got another

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high-tech looking piece of hardware

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there on the table right in front of you

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tell me tell me what that's about

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so while we were here we also evaluated

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two different sets

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of augmenting reality uh devices this

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one

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was is a a prototype of the so called

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hololens

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you wear them just like glasses you put

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them on on your head and then through

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these visors you have

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holographic images that are superimposed

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on on on reality so instead of talking

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about virtual reality we talk about

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augmented reality and we use them for

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two different uh

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kind of

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of procedures um that are bought both

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called just in time training

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so we have a tele operator telling us

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how to run a procedure and today we

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actually performed

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a medical

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diagnosis using an operator outside that

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talks to me and guides me by seeing what

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i see and by telling me what to do

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the other one was is called the odg

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slightly different the procedure is

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already memorizing the glasses and you

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just have to position yourself in front

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of that of the object that you need to

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interface with and then the glasses will

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tell you what to do once you are there

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another thing that you folks have been

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working on is uh working out figuring

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out how to have conversations when there

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are long delays as there will be on on

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future missions much longer than the

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delays that you and i have right now how

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is that going

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so that has been probably one of the

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most interesting parts of this

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experiment we simulated a zero delay uh

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time

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uh five minutes and 10 minutes

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simulating to be in in a lunar orbit or

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uh in orbit around

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on phobos orbiting around mars when the

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communication is when the distance is

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close enough or being at the further

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away area of the orbits on the surface

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on mars

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it turns out that

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voice communication is very ineffective

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at that point

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it's just hard to to send a good clear

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message good uh um

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understand the communication by voice

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and so we've been using a different tool

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called playbook which is also a

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prototype development for this kind of

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exploration and instead we've been using

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text messages with attached files videos

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photos

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to try to make the experience

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the clearest possible

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we found out that

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when we have a lot of delay the

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astronauts need a lot of independence in

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in coming up with a plan in case

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something goes not as planned

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and they need to have a very good

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understanding of

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the requirements on the mission in order

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to come up with the best possible plan

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luca thanks for bringing us up to date

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uh and good luck with the rest of the

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your nemo mission

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thank you very much nemo it's been a

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fantastic experience so far and we can

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only think that it's gonna get even

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better

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it's european space agency astronaut

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luca parmitano who is the commander of